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    FEAT BC Admin
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    In this topic area, discussion is about the fight to secure Government funding for your A.B.A. treatment program. It is also the place to talk about your thoughts and ideas about how to establish new Government programs specifically designed for autism treatment.

    This is the place to hear input from parents who have fought for funding and won, as well as those who have fought for funding and would like to share their horror stories. There is a tendency to not share success stories once funding is secured. Please fight that tendency. By sharing our experience, we all become stronger.

     


    —-By FEAT BC (Freeman) on Saturday, January 3, 1998 – 03:16 pm:

    -Hi everyone!

    These are some things to think about in your dealings with government to help you to obtain support for your child’s Autism Treatment Program. These are my personal opinions and do not represent those of FEAT of BC or any other organization.

    Many of these observations are based on my personal experiences (and I believe it poetic justice to help every parent avoid being systematically abused by their social worker the way I was).

    Good luck to everyone! (Let’s all pull back the curtain on the Wizard of OZ).

    Sabrina

     


    How To Fight for Funding for Autism Treatment and Appropriate School Placement

    1. Establish a Paper Trail

    Always take notes, documenting major points of all conversations with government and school officials.

    This includes casual, in person conversations with social workers as well as ALL telephone conversations. All key points of discussion must be written down in your notes including the date and time of the discussion. This includes what was agreed upon, as well as what was not agreed upon.

    Then the notes should be used to write a letter recapping the substance and content of the conversation. This letter must then be mailed or faxed to the person with whom you had the conversation. In addition, a copy must be kept in your file (see section on the icci game).

    Why?

    It is important to formalize the interaction between you and Government officials. In addition, everyone is put on notice that they must closely adhere to their responsibilities, regulations and laws., Furthermore, they must then consider the paper trail you have created. This lets everyone know that the interaction can become public and that any abuses of power and authority can be formally appealed and/or publicized.

    In other words, they canit use discretion unfairly under the cloak of secrecy.

    2. Submit all Requests in Writing

    All your requests for your child must be submitted formally in writing with a copy included in your file and a copy, if necessary, sent to their immediate superiors.

    3. Set Deadlines for Action

    All formal requests for action must have a reasonable deadline set for that action. If no action or response is received by the deadline you have set (two weeks for example), then you will interpret the lack of response as a formal declination (a formal NO) of your requests.

    Why Set Deadlines?

    When bureaucrats do not want to do something, they will stall by ignoring you and your request. (As an aside, in the study of the bureaucracy, this is known as ithe power to do nothingi). They can string you along for years. When you have determined that the person you are interacting with is not inclined to help you or is not dealing in good faith, then you must take the initiative and formally label his/her behavior as obstructionist and de facto as a declination (a NO to your requests). This allows you to move to the next level of authority on your timetable to present your case. This takes the power to do nothing away from the bureaucrat with whom you are dealing. Simple stated, a bureaucrat who stalls and does nothing becomes irrelevant (use your invisible spray) and you move on to the next level of authority.

    How to icci?

    A cc. is a copy of your letter sent to someone other than the person you are writing. You put the cc. at the bottom left-hand corner of your letter followed by 2 spaces and the name of the person or people to whom you want to send a copy of the letter.

    Who to icci to?

    Sometimes it is best not to icci at all, especially in the early stages of the relationship (for example, your first letter to a social worker requesting assistance). This gives them the opportunity to do the right thing and does not present you as an overly combative person. When you start to run into problems, it is a good idea to send the icci to the 2 immediate superiors of the person you are having problems with. We do not recommend icciing all the way up the chain of command, since you want to give them a chance to solve the problem at the local level.

    Why send a icci copy?

    The reason for playing the icci game is that you want your interactions with the official to be known to his superior and possibly to other organizations so that 1) their action or inaction becomes a matter of record and 2) the individual knows he is being monitored. This helps minimize abuses of power and authority and helps encourage the official to meet their obligations and do the right thing.

    What is the sequence of letters?

    Find out the chain of command of the particular bureaucracy you are battling.

    TOP

    Minister
    Deputy Minister
    Children’s Ministry’s local region chain of command, all the way down to the District Supervisor
    and Social Worker
    Contacts can be found at the government directory: http://www.dir.gov.bc.ca/

    BOTTOM

    Start at the bottom and climb. At the Regional Operating Officer (ROO) level (once you have been declined) you have to decide whether to jump up to the top, threaten and then go to the media, or both. A word of wisdom: DO NOT BLUFF. If you are not willing to go all the way, they will ‘smell’ this. You must be prepared to take it right up to the Minister and beyond.

    Documentation from Experts:

    In your arsenal to fight for your child, it is wise to get his/her pediatrician and/or psychiatrist to write a letter on your childis behalf. In addition, any other experts who know your child and are sympathetic to what you are trying to do should become involved.

    When to hire a lawyer?

    If money is not an issue, you can hire a lawyer when you get to the area manager level. Make sure that you have a paper trail so the lawyer has something to work with. Also, have the lawyer give F.E.A.T. of B.C. a call, and we will send him/her information that will help.

    If money is an issue (as it is for most of us running autism treatment programs), you might want to hire a lawyer once you have been turned down by the Minister.

    How to hire a lawyer?

    The type of lawyer needed is a litigator, or trial lawyer. S/he does not need to be an expert in autism, or special needs; s/he needs to be experienced in suing governments, and enjoys being in court. Word of mouth is a good way to find a lawyer.

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  • #1570
    Nancy Walton
    Participant

    For those sending in petitions:

    Several people have asked me if they should put a cover letter with their petition. It is a good idea for two reasons. First you want to tell your MP who to contact for more information: Andrew Kavchak who has been protesting for over half a year outside the Parliament buildings in Ottawa (he's there most Tuesdays and Wednesdays 12-1pm) and Scott Reid MP who will be hopefully tabling the petition November 22.

    Secondly, you should tell your MP a little bit about your own situation to put a personal touch to it.

    Remember to contact me once you have sent in your petition with
    1) how many signatures and
    2) who they have gone to.

    Thanks everyone

    Nancy Walton

    #1571
    Nancy Walton
    Participant

    Janet,

    Yes, go ahead and send them into your MP. I have already sent in my batch. Anyone who sends in petitions can either post on this feat board, so we can see our successes or e-mail me privately. I'll keep track either way.

    This may be tabled in a couple of weeks, so send in what you have now and feel free to get more and send them in later.

    Thanks to all those getting the petitions in.

    Nancy Walton
    wiklo@shaw.ca

    #1572

    Nancy:

    Will be sending 50 signatures plus to Richmond MP Raymond Chan this afternoon courtesy of my colleagues at the WCB.

    Best wishes for all our kids,

    Robin

    #1573

    Dear Nancy,
    I do have 2 pages (50 signatures)of petition here, should I also send this to you or just mail/fax it to the MP here in Burnaby? I am working on my 3rd page now….. All my co-workers and bosses at the office signed, without questions, and even ask for the copy of the petition.
    Good luck to all of us!

    #1574
    Nancy Walton
    Participant

    Calling all feat members.

    I have just sent 59 signatures to Chuck Cadman of Surrey. Four other feat members have contacted me. One has 42 to give to a Vancouver MP, 30 signatures have gone to Russ Hiebert in White Rock BC (conservative), 25 to Chilliwack's Chuck Strahl and 40 to an NDP MP in northern Ont. So that is 196 hard copy signatures.

    PLEASE, participate in this petition ASAP. I am sure we can get more than 6 people in Canada to get 25 signatures and hand them into an MP. We have fought long and hard for our children and this is something you can participate in. YOU can make a difference here.

    You can find out the address of your MP in the blue pages of your phone book under Govt. of Canada, Members of Parliament. You can send the petition to your MP (or an MP of your choice) FOR FREE, if you address it to

    754 Confederation Building
    House of Commons
    Ottawa, ON
    K1A 0A6

    Just put your favorite MP's name at the top.

    Come on everyone. Lets do this. Lets make a difference in Canada.

    Nancy Walton
    devoted mother of Casey

    #1575
    Andrew Kavchak
    Participant

    Hi Folks,

    Just one point I wanted to add about the autism petition. If you can, please sign the printed form that is posted on this website and get the minimum 25 signatures and send it in to your MP. This is crucial. The petition has just been certified by the Clerk of Petitions. Similarly, I have just been informed that there may be an "autism information session" for MPs on the Hill during the week of November 22. We will see if we can get all the MPs who receive the petition to join together and table them together on that day. Who knows? This may make quite a splash in the media. Similarly, once tabled, the government has 45 days to issue a response.

    With respect to the electronic petition that Mr. Charles Matthews started up, it is not entirely clear to me yet whether the electronic version can be tabled. I have received some conflicting information on this and in one message I received today from an MP's office the receipt of electronic petitions is currently being "studied". Thus, the hard copy is better as that can definetely be tabled, but the electronic version is also helpful at this time as we will be able to claim during any media event or press conference that the electronic version already has XXXX signatures, etc… Thank you!

    Cheers!
    Andrew

    #1576

    Sorry everyone,
    I did not mean to send this twice, there was an internal message note and I thought it did not go trough. Anyway, since I am here again, let me wish all of you a nice day wherever you are.
    Katalin

    " A day is made more beautiful when touched with kindness. "

    #1577

    Hi Sabrina,
    I already signed the petition and sent it to supportive family members and friends. Just because you mention us being busy and might not read all the emails, I would recommend to send out this reminder about signing the petition a few times, so that way it will eventually catch everyone's attention.
    Good luck for all of us!!
    http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?andap1

    #1578

    Hi Sabrina,
    I already signed the petition and sent it to supportive family members and friends. Just because you mention us being busy and might not read all the emails, I would recommend to send out this reminder about signing the petition a few times, so that way it will eventually catch everyone's attention.
    Good luck for all of us!!
    http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?andap1

    #1579
    Sabrina Freeman
    Participant

    Dear FEATBC Chat Board members:

    I would like to encourage you all to sign the electronic autism treatment petition that will be submitted to the Canadian Parliament. This will help an important lobbying effort in Ottawa.

    http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?andap1

    There are approximately 750 people on the Chat Board and even more if one includes family members. If every one of us signs the electronic petition, then Andrew Kavchak, our FEAT representative on Parliament Hill, will be able to deliver a petition with almost 2000 signatures. This is a very good opportunity to put autism treatment on the agenda of federal lawmakers.

    I know that you are all very busy; however, this takes less than a minute and will spotlight the treatment rights of children with autism that currently are universally ignored by a purportedly "universal" health care system.

    Please support Andrew Kavchak important petition effort in Ottawa!

    Sabrina Freeman, Ph.D.
    Executive Director
    FEAT BC

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