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    In this topic area, discussion is about the fight to secure Government funding for your A.B.A. treatment program. It is also the place to talk about your thoughts and ideas about how to establish new Government programs specifically designed for autism treatment.

    This is the place to hear input from parents who have fought for funding and won, as well as those who have fought for funding and would like to share their horror stories. There is a tendency to not share success stories once funding is secured. Please fight that tendency. By sharing our experience, we all become stronger.

     


    —-By FEAT BC (Freeman) on Saturday, January 3, 1998 – 03:16 pm:

    -Hi everyone!

    These are some things to think about in your dealings with government to help you to obtain support for your child’s Autism Treatment Program. These are my personal opinions and do not represent those of FEAT of BC or any other organization.

    Many of these observations are based on my personal experiences (and I believe it poetic justice to help every parent avoid being systematically abused by their social worker the way I was).

    Good luck to everyone! (Let’s all pull back the curtain on the Wizard of OZ).

    Sabrina

     


    How To Fight for Funding for Autism Treatment and Appropriate School Placement

    1. Establish a Paper Trail

    Always take notes, documenting major points of all conversations with government and school officials.

    This includes casual, in person conversations with social workers as well as ALL telephone conversations. All key points of discussion must be written down in your notes including the date and time of the discussion. This includes what was agreed upon, as well as what was not agreed upon.

    Then the notes should be used to write a letter recapping the substance and content of the conversation. This letter must then be mailed or faxed to the person with whom you had the conversation. In addition, a copy must be kept in your file (see section on the icci game).

    Why?

    It is important to formalize the interaction between you and Government officials. In addition, everyone is put on notice that they must closely adhere to their responsibilities, regulations and laws., Furthermore, they must then consider the paper trail you have created. This lets everyone know that the interaction can become public and that any abuses of power and authority can be formally appealed and/or publicized.

    In other words, they canit use discretion unfairly under the cloak of secrecy.

    2. Submit all Requests in Writing

    All your requests for your child must be submitted formally in writing with a copy included in your file and a copy, if necessary, sent to their immediate superiors.

    3. Set Deadlines for Action

    All formal requests for action must have a reasonable deadline set for that action. If no action or response is received by the deadline you have set (two weeks for example), then you will interpret the lack of response as a formal declination (a formal NO) of your requests.

    Why Set Deadlines?

    When bureaucrats do not want to do something, they will stall by ignoring you and your request. (As an aside, in the study of the bureaucracy, this is known as ithe power to do nothingi). They can string you along for years. When you have determined that the person you are interacting with is not inclined to help you or is not dealing in good faith, then you must take the initiative and formally label his/her behavior as obstructionist and de facto as a declination (a NO to your requests). This allows you to move to the next level of authority on your timetable to present your case. This takes the power to do nothing away from the bureaucrat with whom you are dealing. Simple stated, a bureaucrat who stalls and does nothing becomes irrelevant (use your invisible spray) and you move on to the next level of authority.

    How to icci?

    A cc. is a copy of your letter sent to someone other than the person you are writing. You put the cc. at the bottom left-hand corner of your letter followed by 2 spaces and the name of the person or people to whom you want to send a copy of the letter.

    Who to icci to?

    Sometimes it is best not to icci at all, especially in the early stages of the relationship (for example, your first letter to a social worker requesting assistance). This gives them the opportunity to do the right thing and does not present you as an overly combative person. When you start to run into problems, it is a good idea to send the icci to the 2 immediate superiors of the person you are having problems with. We do not recommend icciing all the way up the chain of command, since you want to give them a chance to solve the problem at the local level.

    Why send a icci copy?

    The reason for playing the icci game is that you want your interactions with the official to be known to his superior and possibly to other organizations so that 1) their action or inaction becomes a matter of record and 2) the individual knows he is being monitored. This helps minimize abuses of power and authority and helps encourage the official to meet their obligations and do the right thing.

    What is the sequence of letters?

    Find out the chain of command of the particular bureaucracy you are battling.

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    Minister
    Deputy Minister
    Children’s Ministry’s local region chain of command, all the way down to the District Supervisor
    and Social Worker
    Contacts can be found at the government directory: http://www.dir.gov.bc.ca/

    BOTTOM

    Start at the bottom and climb. At the Regional Operating Officer (ROO) level (once you have been declined) you have to decide whether to jump up to the top, threaten and then go to the media, or both. A word of wisdom: DO NOT BLUFF. If you are not willing to go all the way, they will ‘smell’ this. You must be prepared to take it right up to the Minister and beyond.

    Documentation from Experts:

    In your arsenal to fight for your child, it is wise to get his/her pediatrician and/or psychiatrist to write a letter on your childis behalf. In addition, any other experts who know your child and are sympathetic to what you are trying to do should become involved.

    When to hire a lawyer?

    If money is not an issue, you can hire a lawyer when you get to the area manager level. Make sure that you have a paper trail so the lawyer has something to work with. Also, have the lawyer give F.E.A.T. of B.C. a call, and we will send him/her information that will help.

    If money is an issue (as it is for most of us running autism treatment programs), you might want to hire a lawyer once you have been turned down by the Minister.

    How to hire a lawyer?

    The type of lawyer needed is a litigator, or trial lawyer. S/he does not need to be an expert in autism, or special needs; s/he needs to be experienced in suing governments, and enjoys being in court. Word of mouth is a good way to find a lawyer.

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  • #1320
    Susan Burns
    Member

    my deepest appreciation to you folks in Richmond today…..I will even go to my neighbours tv to watch…..Barbara Rodriques please email me privately at your convenience….Susan
    604 807 8799 spbpt2002@yahoo.ca

    #1321
    David Chan
    Member

    Hi all ,
    Here's Robin
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    #1322
    David Chan
    Member

    Hi all,

    here is a picture of our Robin in action
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    #1323
    David Chan
    Member

    Hi all,

    here is a picture of our Robin in action
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    #1324

    To all our FEAT friends and family:

    This afternoon, twenty of our members excercised our democratic rights outside Attorney General Geoff Plante's office on the occasion of his Christmas levee for his constituents. Kudos to our wonderful Dave Chan for reading about this in the local Richmond paper and organizing our group. We assembled outside Plante's office where we greeted the Attorney General and yours truly confronted him about his government's reprehensible actions and statements following the SCOCC decision resulting in our children essentially being branded as second class citizens in this country.Unfortunately, the government lackeys including Robin Syme, Cameron Kelleher have already been hard at work and planning to terminate funding in"the spirit of the SOCC decision". Shortly after Minister Plante invited us all to join us in his office for"some Christmas cheer", BCTV showed up and interviewed myself, Nancy Walton and Liz Hummel who so eloquently presented her story with which all of us are so familiar-regression of her child as their funding has been significantly reduced.

    Inside Minister Plante's office, Bev Sharpe confronted Minister Plante to communicate our message of our children requiring medically necessary treatment, core health care funding and parents receiving individualized funding in order that our children may continue to receive this treatment. The Attorney General kept insisting that 30 million dollars was being expended by his government towards autism care. We responded by arguing that this money was going to government contractors and not directly to our children's Lovaas ABA treatment. We also pointed out to Minister Plante that the Canadian public had a right to know that despite he and his government's best efforts, we were not going to go away and neither were our children.Minister Plante and his Liberal cronies have displayed their true colours since the SOCC decision by vindictively ripping away funding from the Autism Society of B.C. This is all being done notwithstanding the Attorney General's remonstrations that his government "cares about our children."
    The Attorney General was both dismissive and sarcastic. This piece will be aired on CTV tonite on the 6:00 news on Channel 9.

    Many thanks to all of our members who are Richmond constituents that demonstrated and walked the Richmond streets with placards in hand.

    Best regards,

    Robin Gelfer

    #1325

    I sent letters out to a number of local newspapers, supporting parents in their drive to obtain funding for autism therapy and the Langley Advance chose to print it. It was in last Sunday's edition. I believe that Penticton also published a different letter from me. At least they asked me if they could, I haven't seen it, not living there.

    #1326
    Andrew Kavchak
    Participant

    Hi Folks,
    Please see below the Hansard transcript from the House of Commons for Thursday, December 9, 2004. One of the MPs, Tony Martin, who joined Scott Reid, I and a few other parents in the foyer of the House of Commons to have a press scrum regarding the autism petition back on November 23, tabled a set of petitions yesterday in the House. Please note the exchange with the Speaker. Mr. Martin added his editorial comment that he supported the petition at the end and it is now on the official record, notwithstanding the Speaker's subsequent comments. Let's all send Mr. Tony Martin messages of thanks for his tabling of the petition and expression of support!
    His email is: Martin.T@parl.gc.ca
    Thank you!
    Andrew (Ottawa)

    House of Commons Hansard, December 9, 2004.

    Petitions
    Autism

    Mr. Tony Martin (Sault Ste. Marie, NDP): Mr. Speaker, I beg leave to present a petition on behalf of over 40 of my constituents who are concerned about the disorder of autism in Canada. They are asking that IBI and ABA be covered under the Canada Health Act and that a chair be set up at a post-secondary institution to teach in this discipline. I support this petition myself.

    The Speaker: The Speaker must say that it is not normal procedure for an hon. member to indicate his support for a petition.

    I hope the hon. member for Sault Ste. Marie the next time he presents a petition will refrain from an indication of his support for it, because members are not supposed to indicate that they support or oppose the petitions they present. I know this may be the first time the hon. member has done that, but I hope he is watching the good example set by other hon. members who refrain from such comments.

    #1327
    Andrew Kavchak
    Participant

    Hi Folks,
    For those of you who did not catch it, the CTV Canada AM TV show had a poll the other day where people could vote about whether ABA treatment for autistic kids should be publicly funded. The result? The final result was 70% said yes with a total of over 3000 votes in!
    Thanks to everyone who registered your votes online.
    Cheers!
    Andrew

    #1328

    Hi everyone, if any of you have tried to get ahold of me about petitions(lunneys riding) my email was wrong, it should be lwatson61@shaw.ca , thankyou and Happy Holidays to everyone, Louise

    #1329
    David Chan
    Member

    Attention all FEAT parents in Richmond

    Please contact me immediately at

    604-275-4309

    Dave

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