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    In this topic area, discussion is about the fight to secure Government funding for your A.B.A. treatment program. It is also the place to talk about your thoughts and ideas about how to establish new Government programs specifically designed for autism treatment.

    This is the place to hear input from parents who have fought for funding and won, as well as those who have fought for funding and would like to share their horror stories. There is a tendency to not share success stories once funding is secured. Please fight that tendency. By sharing our experience, we all become stronger.

     


    —-By FEAT BC (Freeman) on Saturday, January 3, 1998 – 03:16 pm:

    -Hi everyone!

    These are some things to think about in your dealings with government to help you to obtain support for your child’s Autism Treatment Program. These are my personal opinions and do not represent those of FEAT of BC or any other organization.

    Many of these observations are based on my personal experiences (and I believe it poetic justice to help every parent avoid being systematically abused by their social worker the way I was).

    Good luck to everyone! (Let’s all pull back the curtain on the Wizard of OZ).

    Sabrina

     


    How To Fight for Funding for Autism Treatment and Appropriate School Placement

    1. Establish a Paper Trail

    Always take notes, documenting major points of all conversations with government and school officials.

    This includes casual, in person conversations with social workers as well as ALL telephone conversations. All key points of discussion must be written down in your notes including the date and time of the discussion. This includes what was agreed upon, as well as what was not agreed upon.

    Then the notes should be used to write a letter recapping the substance and content of the conversation. This letter must then be mailed or faxed to the person with whom you had the conversation. In addition, a copy must be kept in your file (see section on the icci game).

    Why?

    It is important to formalize the interaction between you and Government officials. In addition, everyone is put on notice that they must closely adhere to their responsibilities, regulations and laws., Furthermore, they must then consider the paper trail you have created. This lets everyone know that the interaction can become public and that any abuses of power and authority can be formally appealed and/or publicized.

    In other words, they canit use discretion unfairly under the cloak of secrecy.

    2. Submit all Requests in Writing

    All your requests for your child must be submitted formally in writing with a copy included in your file and a copy, if necessary, sent to their immediate superiors.

    3. Set Deadlines for Action

    All formal requests for action must have a reasonable deadline set for that action. If no action or response is received by the deadline you have set (two weeks for example), then you will interpret the lack of response as a formal declination (a formal NO) of your requests.

    Why Set Deadlines?

    When bureaucrats do not want to do something, they will stall by ignoring you and your request. (As an aside, in the study of the bureaucracy, this is known as ithe power to do nothingi). They can string you along for years. When you have determined that the person you are interacting with is not inclined to help you or is not dealing in good faith, then you must take the initiative and formally label his/her behavior as obstructionist and de facto as a declination (a NO to your requests). This allows you to move to the next level of authority on your timetable to present your case. This takes the power to do nothing away from the bureaucrat with whom you are dealing. Simple stated, a bureaucrat who stalls and does nothing becomes irrelevant (use your invisible spray) and you move on to the next level of authority.

    How to icci?

    A cc. is a copy of your letter sent to someone other than the person you are writing. You put the cc. at the bottom left-hand corner of your letter followed by 2 spaces and the name of the person or people to whom you want to send a copy of the letter.

    Who to icci to?

    Sometimes it is best not to icci at all, especially in the early stages of the relationship (for example, your first letter to a social worker requesting assistance). This gives them the opportunity to do the right thing and does not present you as an overly combative person. When you start to run into problems, it is a good idea to send the icci to the 2 immediate superiors of the person you are having problems with. We do not recommend icciing all the way up the chain of command, since you want to give them a chance to solve the problem at the local level.

    Why send a icci copy?

    The reason for playing the icci game is that you want your interactions with the official to be known to his superior and possibly to other organizations so that 1) their action or inaction becomes a matter of record and 2) the individual knows he is being monitored. This helps minimize abuses of power and authority and helps encourage the official to meet their obligations and do the right thing.

    What is the sequence of letters?

    Find out the chain of command of the particular bureaucracy you are battling.

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    Minister
    Deputy Minister
    Children’s Ministry’s local region chain of command, all the way down to the District Supervisor
    and Social Worker
    Contacts can be found at the government directory: http://www.dir.gov.bc.ca/

    BOTTOM

    Start at the bottom and climb. At the Regional Operating Officer (ROO) level (once you have been declined) you have to decide whether to jump up to the top, threaten and then go to the media, or both. A word of wisdom: DO NOT BLUFF. If you are not willing to go all the way, they will ‘smell’ this. You must be prepared to take it right up to the Minister and beyond.

    Documentation from Experts:

    In your arsenal to fight for your child, it is wise to get his/her pediatrician and/or psychiatrist to write a letter on your childis behalf. In addition, any other experts who know your child and are sympathetic to what you are trying to do should become involved.

    When to hire a lawyer?

    If money is not an issue, you can hire a lawyer when you get to the area manager level. Make sure that you have a paper trail so the lawyer has something to work with. Also, have the lawyer give F.E.A.T. of B.C. a call, and we will send him/her information that will help.

    If money is an issue (as it is for most of us running autism treatment programs), you might want to hire a lawyer once you have been turned down by the Minister.

    How to hire a lawyer?

    The type of lawyer needed is a litigator, or trial lawyer. S/he does not need to be an expert in autism, or special needs; s/he needs to be experienced in suing governments, and enjoys being in court. Word of mouth is a good way to find a lawyer.

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  • #1730
    Isaac
    Participant

    Hello Everyone,

    A recent legal battle for autism medical insurance in New Jersey is a stark contrast between the government-run health insurance plans in Canada and the private health insurance plans in the U.S.

    Let me explain.

    In Canada, as you know, there was a long legal battle (the 'Auton' case) that was intended to force a health insurance "company" (the B.C. Government Medicare plan) to fund medically necessary autism treatment. The case ran from 1998 through to 2004. The children lost. No autism health insurance for them.

    In the United States, there was a recent legal battle to force a health insurance company to fund medically necessary autism treatment. The case ran all of 24 hours — the U.S. judge summarily ruled in favour of the disabled child's legal right to health insurance coverage for the cost of medically necessary autism treatment (Intensive Behavioural Intervention, A.K.A. Lovaas-type A.B.A).

    Why such a huge difference in the legal process (and conclusion) between Canada and the U.S., one might reasonably ask, on something so vital as health insurance for seriously disabled kids? There are two key factors, in my view.

    When government owns both the health care system and all the institutions that SHOULD keep health insurance fair and honest (e.g., the Supreme Court of Canada), there is a clear conflict of interest (think "fox guarding the chicken coop"). On the other hand, when government is independent of health insurance (e.g., New Jersey) there is no incentive for government to corrupt the legal process to deny health insurance to disabled children.

    Moreover, and key in this instance, is that in the U.S. there is federal and state law known as "mental health parity" legislation that makes it illegal for a health insurance provider to deny treatment because a health problem is mental in nature (e.g., autism) rather than physical.

    The recent case in New Jersey for autism health insurance relied upon U.S. mental health parity law. Canada has no such anti-discrimination, mental health "parity" protection from provincial health insurance abuses, likely because the governments that SHOULD be writing such safeguard legislation are also running the health insurance plans!

    The New Jersey article is available at the link below.

    https://featbc.org/downloads/NorthJersey.com_09_14_07.pdf

    #1731
    Andrew Kavchak
    Participant

    Hi Folks,

    Please see the article below about the creation of a new Mental Health Commission which says: "It will seek to ensure Canadians in every part of the country will have access to the best prevention, diagnostic and treatment practices."

    Would our community find it worthwhile to ask the Commission to also apply their mandate to autism? Just a thought…

    Andrew Kavchak
    Ottawa
    ________________________________________________
    PM officially launches mental health commission
    Fri. Aug. 31 2007

    CTV.ca News Staff

    The Mental Health Commission of Canada, set up to erase social stigmas that prevent many from getting necessary treatment, was officially launched by Prime Minister Stephen Harper on Friday.

    Harper announced the final selection of the board of directors and named former Liberal senator Michael Kirby as the commission's chairman.

    The announcement was made during the 2007 International Initiative on Mental Health Leadership Exchange and Conference in Ottawa.

    "The commission will improve quality of life for Canadians dealing with mental illness and their families," said Harper.

    "It will seek to ensure Canadians in every part of the country will have access to the best prevention, diagnostic and treatment practices."

    Harper also said chairs have been selected for a Canada-wide network of advisory committees, set up to concentrate on specific areas of mental health in support of the board.

    "Together they will lead a national campaign to erase the stigma attached to mental illness," said Harper.

    "They will also serve as a national clearing house for information on the best medical practices for dealing with it."

    The commission had been previously announced and the federal government committed $55 million over five years in its last budget.

    "I can tell you that there is already widespread enthusiasm for the creation of the commission," Kirby said in a press release. "I cannot count the number of offers of help and proposals for collaboration that have already flooded in."

    The creation of the commission was a key recommendation of a Standing Senate Committee report on mental health, mental illness and addiction in Canada.

    On Thursday, a new report from the Canadian Institute for Health Information found that mental disorders account for more than half of the hospital stays among the homeless in Canada.

    In 2005-2006, the study found that mental health disorders accounted for 52 per cent of acute care hospitalizations in Canada (outside Quebec).

    Additionally, 35 per cent of homeless people who visited selected emergency departments (EDs), mostly in Ontario, were treated for mental and behavioural related disorders.

    #1732
    Deleted User
    Member

    Hi everyone

    for all of you in bc not aware, the MCFD (Ministry of Family and Child
    Development) has on page 17 of 28 page procedure and policy manual
    that children that are 6 and older do NOT require a multidisclinary
    team.

    A multidisciplinary team consist of a pediatrican, psychologist and
    speech language pathologist.

    If your pediatrician is experienced with the ADOS and ADI-R testing
    tools, you can be referred to them by your family doctor and MSP can
    fund his private assessment for you. NO NEED TO PAY.

    My funding has been approved as of August 16th so this is put out
    there for all of you looking for help and can't afford it.

    You can reach me at my private email if you need more information or
    discuss further.

    Each case is unique so it is necessary to go over the details but I
    would be glad to share my experience with anyone interested.

    Thanks
    yipee@shaw.ca

    Yipee mom

    #1733
    Dione Costanzo
    Participant

    Message for Andrew Kavchak:

    Hi Andrew,

    I am in Ottawa until August 31 and would like to meet you if you have the chance. I am connecting with some local parents and also interested in learning about the political environment here. If you get the chance please email me at lasido@videotron.ca

    Cheers,
    Dione Costanzo

    #1734

    Hi all —

    We've run into (surprise!) a bureaucratic black hole in our recent application for under-six autism funding. (And as a general point I can only second what Sabrina has noted on the importance of documenting one's every conversation/contact with the gov't and others.)

    We moved from Nova Scotia and weren't eligible for MSP coverage until Sept 1 of this year, but were told in July to apply for Autism Funding anyhow, since the CareCard Number was only to demonstrate residency. Now apparently there is a problem with our not having MSP / CareCard coverage at the time of our application. All of our other papers are in order.

    So: does anyone know if this actually matters? Is the money in any way connected to MSP coverage, or is McFamily trying to duck out here?

    Jeremy, jkvothschmidt@yahoo.ca

    #1735
    J.Graham
    Participant

    We are having problems with Revenue Canada and I'm looking for some advice.

    They are stalling on accepting our parent portion of our therapy receipts… and this goes back to 2004!
    They now want us to prove to them that we ONLY received $20,000 for our child and not any more for the year of 2005… I wish.
    They are asking for copies of our contracts with MCF to prove this.

    Has anyone ever had to do this?
    Any advice is appreciated.
    Please email Jen at magnolias@telus.net or answer on the board.

    Thanks,

    Jen

    #1736
    Dave Collyer
    Member

    Hi all,

    Recent court ruling in PEI… http://www.gov.pe.ca/photos/original/hrc_autism.pdf

    D.

    #1737
    Susan Burns
    Member

    hi everyone
    three questions…it's probably here but I'm not too pc savvy
    1. how does one post without scrolling through all these 2 years of posts?
    2. my child is in care and my money arrangement is changing….Andrea Sharp will will mcf???
    3. I cannot remain quiet any more…..for the past 2 years my July money came in Nov…..so I lost all my staff and it's running out now with no 2007 money in sight….

    Susan Burns
    autismchristmas@yahoo.ca

    #1738

    Eugene Levy is on CFUN AM 1410 right now.

    #1739
    Mike & Jean
    Participant

    Check out http://www.featontario.org to download the speeches given at today's press conference in Toronto where Eugene Levy, Senator Jim Munson, and two of our Ontario colleagues – Norrah Whitney and Brenda Deskin spoke. They are extremely powerful and "right on the money"

    Parents who are focused and organized…there is nothing more powerful…

    Our thanks to Eugene Levy, Jim Munson, Norrah Whitney and Brenda Deskin!

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