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  • in reply to: Room Three: Discussions about Government Topics #2821
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    A little more light scientific reading for the season. Enjoy, and happy holidays…

    Subject: New Chemical Element Discovered

    A major research institution (MRI?) has recently announced the discovery of the heaviest chemical element yet known to science. The new element has been tentatively named "Governmentium." Governmentium has 1 neutron, 12 assistant neutrons, 75 deputy neutrons, and 11 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 312. These 312 particles are held together by forces called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons. Since governmentium has no electrons, it is inert. However, it can be detected as it impedes every reaction with which it comes into contact. A minute amount of governmentium causes one reaction to take over 4 days to complete when it would normally take less than a second. Governmentium has a normal half-life of 3 years; it does not decay, but instead undergoes a reorganization in which a portion of the assistant neutrons and deputy neutrons exchange places. In fact, governmentium's mass will actually increase over time, since each reorganization will cause some morons to become neutrons, forming isodopes. This characteristic of •••••-promotion leads some scientists to speculate that governmentium is formed whenever morons reach a certain quantity in concentration. This hypothetical quantity is referred to as Critical Morass.

    in reply to: Room One: General Topics Discussion #4815
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    Here is an excellent site on children doing very well with Lovaas treatment.

    http://www.tomi.org/

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    In reply to my original post (below) this is my opinion only. I like many other parents feel strongly on the MSP subject.

    "I say true, now let's see their flexibility. This was a direct quote from our province. It's time for our province to correct the wrong and make MSP NOW for all chidren with autism (and their Lovaas providers). I think we should not accept anything less from our government by rejecting any funding from other sources as a group and keep this in the public spotlight. My two cents as always."

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    "We know that we can do the best locally for our patients in the province," she said. "Something we are going to be absolutely adamant about (is) that the provinces have the flexibility to provide the programs we know our patients need."

    I say true, now let's see their flexibility. This was a direct quote from our province. It's time for our province to correct the wrong and make MSP NOW for all chidren with autism (and their Lovaas providers). I think we should not accept anything less from our government by rejecting any funding from other sources as a group and keep this in the public spotlight. My two cents as always.

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    The Romanow Report, a federal commission on health care (spending), has been released. This is what BC govt. had to say on the recommendation that "a new level of accountability be introduced into the system". From CBC NEWs:

    British Columbia has been one of the provinces that has rejected any notion that Ottawa can tell the provinces how to spend money in the health care system.

    B.C. Minister of Health Planning Sindi Hawkins said the recommendation for new cash was a "good start," but rejected the idea her province would take direction from Ottawa on spending.

    "We know that we can do the best locally for our patients in the province," she said. "Something we are going to be absolutely adamant about (is) that the provinces have the flexibility to provide the programs we know our patients need."

    Let's make em buck up.

    in reply to: Room One: General Topics Discussion #4813
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    Bravo to the Province for printing this story. I hope it is never forgotten!

    To respond to the Anonymous on Wednesday, November 27, 2002 – 04:36 pm:

    I have always had a opinion on these faculties way before this article. Thanks to the Province once again. Can't say it enough. Although the content was very sad and I felt terrible for the children who were victimized.

    As for suggesting to other parents to "carefully consider care placements, if that is their choice" I honestly personally would never say that. Your right about one thing – It is a choice a parental choice, parents never ever have to place their child where they don't want to EVER. Great thing about this country it is a free one. If parents want their children home with them til their 85 guess what they can.

    in reply to: Room One: General Topics Discussion #4812
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    To Anon 5:38pm
    "Yes, they are all the same, and the only difference is who gets caught and when they get caught"
    While I agree 100% these people who have commited these crimes are dispicable, and should not be working with anyone anywhere, NOT ALL SERVICE PROVIDERS, GROUP HOMES, OR AGENCIES ARE THE SAME!!! There are many very good caregivers who are working with people because they genuinely care about them, and are fully trained!!!!
    "There is are now some "locals" who actually know what they're doing" yes there are, in many different areas and with many different agencies. Speaking as a "local" who has completed every course I can, and who works with people I genuinely care about, I am so pleased with the Province for investigating and printing this series, now I hope there will be a swift and effective supervisory "body,"who will demand all employees are fully certified, (which the gov was talking about implimenting a year ago) and that this will make all the difference for anyone who is vulnerable in this provinces "services."

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    I seem to remember a story about Gateway getting caught chaining children to desks and leaving them unattended too. Or is that the same story?

    Madam Justice Allan didn't tear strips off the government's choices of service provider for no reason at all, you know.

    As for every agency having skeletons in the closet, we aren't talking about skeletons here. We aren't talking about isolated incidents. We're talking about people giving medical treatment without proper training, without proper supervision, without proper safeguards. I wonder how many incidents at Gateway and Laurel Group and CBI and Delta have been swept under the rug and didn't make it into the newspapers?

    I'm sorry, but "Gateway" and "valuable services" do not belong in the same sentence…unless it's a jail sentence.

    in reply to: Room One: General Topics Discussion #4810
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    In response to David’s post. My attempt was by NO means to excuse the behaviour. I was only trying to express that this sort of thing happens everywhere. Parents should not be cautions of Gateway because they were featured in the province. Parents should be cautions of anyone providing service to their children. If society judged all organizations on the actions of a few, there would be NO ONE left to work with the kids. I have worked with many professional organizations while working with children who have Autism. I have never ran into an organization that hasn’t had some skeleton in their closet. Screening of employees isn’t perfect, and abuse does happen. You are free to make up your own mind about organizations like Gateway. I am sure you probably already have, and most likely that opinion has been solidified by this article. I on the other hand, I believe that media pretrial of incidents does bias the public, and therefore keep the belief that organizations like Gateway do provide some valuable services despite these skeletons.

    As for the comment, “What else is that stuff inside your skull for, anyhow?” I say, that stuff is in there to use. And by use, I mean look at a situation with an open mind, consider ALL of the factors, be realistic, and come to a reasonable, logical and OPEN MINDED conclusion. NOT to use a closed mind and jump to irrational conclusions based on media portrayal. Tell me this. If the media came out with a story about a single feat parent abusing their child. Should we then assume that all feat parents abuse their children, and that all parents with Autism should stay away from FEAT. I THINK NOT!!!!

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    Yes, they are all the same, and the only difference is who gets caught and when they get caught. And the reason is simple — inadequate training, inadequate supervision. The only thing any of this bunch are good at is bellying up to the government trough to stick their snouts in and suck up the tax dollars.

    There is are now some "locals" who actually know what they're doing, like the Early Autism Program. My advice is to steer as far away from people like Gateway and Laurel Group and CBI and that bunch in Delta as possible. I can tell you that they will get their mitts into my child's program when hell freezes over. No, actually not even then.

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